How is it possible for people to be so manipulated into believing global warming is the Humans fault?
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Answer:
Your first link was some 'crap' about discrediting Al Gore. As I saw it, it was purely political although in the pretext of global warming.
Second link.
It was also about Al Gore. Produce some facts without mentioning Al Gore and I will respond to it. Even excerpt from the links (as the second was quite long) and I'll respond to the scientific parts of it.
"Find me a link that doesn't have Al Gore in it."
Lol, this is your question. You find some sources of your own. I thought you had based your belief on other things then Al Gore. Obviously not.
"Explain to me then, how one volcano eruption produces more toxins than all of man kind."
Where are your sources? Do you just pick those number randomely?
"Find me a glacier that that is melting and I will find you a glacier that is growing..Explain that one?"
I'll take you up on that!
Here are 89 glaciars. Now produce 89 that aren't melting, with your sources.
2 Mass balance data 2003/2004 and 2004/2005
Name b 04 b 05
[mm w.e.] [mm w.e.]
Antarctica
Bahia del Diablo -110 -230
Argentina
Martial Este -1256 -844
Austria
Hintereisferner -667 -1061
Jamtal F. -228 -975
Kesselwandferner -189 -59
Sonnblickkees 8 -323
Vernagtferner -407 -523
Wurten K. -333 -448
Kleiner Fleisskees 82 -111
Grosser Goldbergkees 132 -260
Pasterze n.a. -899
Bolivia
Chacaltaya -1822 -2057
Charquini sur -1486 -2498
Zongo -523 -1693
Canada
Helm -2200 n.a.
Peyto -1850 n.a.
Place -1595 -1295
White 37 -612
Chile
Echaurren Norte -570 -850
China
Urumqihe E-Br. -706 -850
Urumqihe S.No.1 -755 -748
Urumqihe W-Br. -844 -692
Ecuador
Antizana 15 Alpha -572 -789
France
Saint Sorlin -2450 -2500
Sarennes -2820 -3230
Iceland
Breidamjok. E. B. -1330 n.a.
Bruarjokull -800 n.a.
Eyabakkajokull -1310 n.a.
Hofsjokull E -1500 -20
Hofsjokull N -1370 -430
Hofsjokull SW -1500 -570
Koeldukvislarj. n.a. n.a.
Langjokull Southern Dome -1487 n.a.
Tungnaarjokull -1700 n.a.
Italy
Careser -1588 -2005
Ciardoney -1060 -2230
Fontana Bianca -994 -1471
Malavalle n.a. -787
Pendente -427 -936
Vedretta Lunga -1524 -1233
Kazakhstan
Ts. Tuyuksuyskiy 60 -338
New Zealand
Brewster 700 n.a.
Norway
Aalfotbreen -100 670
Austdalsbreeen -960 190
Austre Broeggerbreen -1120 -1000
Breidalblikkbrea -950 -280
Engabreen 820 890
Graafjellsbreen -810 10
Graasubreen -490 -500
Hansbreen -570 40
Hansebreen -510 -90
Hardangerjoekulen 80 720
Hellstugubreen -840 -290
Irenebreen -605 -862
Kongsvegen -770 -480
Langfjordjoekul -1920 -1260
Midre Lovenbreen -970 -740
Nigardsbreen -40 1100
Rundvassbreen -210 n.a.
Storbreen -580 -60
Storglombreen 120 330
Waldemarbreen -641 -722
Russia
No. 125 -220 n.a.
Maliy Aktru -150 -30
Leviy Aktru -240 n.a.
Garabashi n.a. 200
Djankuat 700 400
Spain
Maladeta -1516 -1479
Sweden
Marmaglaciaeren n.a. -540
Rabots Glaciaer n.a. -1170
Riukojietna n.a. n.a.
Storglaciaeren -190 -80
Tarfalaglaciaeren n.a. -930
Switzerland
Basodino -490 -1170
Gries -1330 -1670
Silvretta 119 -650
USA
Colombia (2057) -1830 -3210
Daniels -2130 -2900
Easton -960 -2450
Emmons n.a. n.a.
Foss -1940 -3120
Gulkana -2290 -250
Ice Worm -2000 -2850
Lower Curtis -1510 -2750
Lynch -1980 -2620
Nisqually n.a. n.a.
Noisy Creek n.a. -2410
North Klawatti n.a. -2060
Rainbow -1670 -2650
Sandalee n.a. -2290
Sholes -1860 -2840
Silver n.a. -1490
South Cascade -1650 -2450
Wolverine -2280 n.a.
Yawning -1780 -3020
Edit.
You gave these as examples for glaciars growing in Norway.
"NORWAY
Ålfotbreen Glacier
Briksdalsbreen Glacier
Nigardsbreen Glacier
Hardangerjøkulen Glacier
Hansebreen Glacier
Jostefonn Glacier
Engabreen glacier"
"In 2001 mass balance measurements were performed on 13 glaciers in Norway - 10 in southern Norway and 3 in northern Norway." "The final results show negative net balance for twelve of thirteen glaciers. Hansebreen (-2.7 m w.eqv.) and Langfjordjøkelen (-2.3 m w.eqv.) had the greatest deficit. The result at Langfjordjøkelen is the
greatest deficit measured since measurements began in 1989. Gråsubreen was exactly in balance."
Several of these glaciars are the ones you mentioned. Perhaps you should review your sources?
1 Ålfotbreen and Hansebreen
2 Nigardsbreen
3 Austdalsbreen
4 Rembesdalskåka and Midtdalsbreen
5 Harbardsbreen
6 Storbreen
7 Hellstugubreen
8 Gråsubreen
9 Engabreen and Storglombreen
10 Langfjordjøkelen
The same way you can be manipulated into thinking it isn't. Because they don't know science so they depend on some authority they trust to tell them what to believe. They trust different authorities than you do.
We all hope Al Gore is wrong about global warming, don't we? I think we humans could do a lot to help the situation, but if we don't, and if the American breadbasket turns into a desert and the world starves and billions die, that will bring me absolutely no, zero, nada satisfaction at all to have been proved right. None. Even if it means all the stupid people who never believed in global warming either died or became educated on their error. So you see, we really are all in the same boat. I hope you are right, I hope I am wrong.
So how do you explain places that never get snow that's getting snow? Or how the ocean level is rising and the glaciers are melting? You believe that there isn't global warming just like others believe there is. The point of begin an adult is that even if it's not your fault you should try to help the environment. If we can do things to make it better shouldn't we?
95% of humanity are "sheeple" willing to be led by the nose by those most willing and unscrupulous enough to frighten them into believing that the sky is falling.
Does it matter whose fault it is?
Obviously we are not helping the problem by adding more CO2.
I think we all agree that there is a climate change going on. The changes are mostly going to be bad for everyone. So why don't we just stop the blame game and get to work?
Its OK dude your just suffering from a little pathological skepticism . It happens to all of us from time to time . No biggie
even if our pollution is not messing with the environment, we still need to cut it out. Humans are becoming increasingly more sick. Because of all the chemicals in the air. there is only so much medicine will be able to do.
I personally think you are an idiot. there is so much more to the environment/energy crisis than co2 levels in the atmosphere. which is what is causing the warming trend.
It is human nature for people to justify a position that helps them achieve a goal. They have convinced themselves to believe it. What are the real goals of global warming proponents?
I guess you ignore the EPA, NOAA and NASA as worthy sources, that don't use Al Gore. Head in the sand is great for an ostrich, not for humans.
Its not maipulation--its science.
The only ones being manipulated are the people who are so gullible they believe the fairy tales put out by the oil companies and other special interests.
Like Bush--before the 2000 election he acknowledge the reality of CO2 emissions causing global warming, and called for emissions caps. Thenhe reversed his "position" and started censoring scientific reports. Now he's switched again.
Yet the sheep still buy the nonsense about global warming not being the result of human activity. If the issue wern't so serious, it would be funny. As it is, they're just pathetic.
Dear God Where do i begin give me strength.Do you have a Bachelors degree in Meteorology? I do.Does The Lord God Almighty have to come to earth and slap you silly for you to see the effects of Global Warming on our environment EVERY DAMN DAY?????????...
Ok Genius answer me this if the cycle of modern Global Warming we are going through rights now has nothing to do with the interference of Humankind then why has the MASSIVE GAPING HOLE in the Ozone layer over Antarctica only appeared in the last few decades? Why not during the Permian Age when Volcanic activity was MUCH GREATER than it is today. One thing that we do agree on Humanity's capabilities of Self-delusion are AMAZING to me also.Maybe when your house is under a Mile Thick Glacier or the next Category 5 Hurricane blows you off to Oz you will see Global Warming for the self-imposed threat to Humanity it really is.One more thing PLEASE get your facts straight before you go off half cocked on a dangerous subject and help blind ever more people to this problem. Part of Global warming is also climatic COOLING in certain regions which causes GLACIERS TO GROW!!! God Save the world from ignorance. It is just so damn sad and funny to me that all that data on Glacial Growth you so obviously painstakingly collect PROVES THE EXISTENCE of Global warming better than I ever could Please Please for your own sake and that of your Children check into what I am saying here.
Entirely humans fault? No it is not.
However, point out one thing ( asides from the efforts of some) what are we doing to help slow the process. If we are not helping, we are hindering. The population is not getting smaller. Industrial demands are growing ever so rapidly and the 4% Co2 that you quoted is going to grow exponentially. Keep in mind that our industrial revolution did not begin too long ago. What is it going to be in another ten years with another few billion people on this planet.
They choose to believe what they want. They are like sheep, hopefully someone will lead them off of a cliff.
Free Tibet.
As global warming progresses, some of the more northern and southern glaciers, where it had previously been "too cold to snow" for part of the year, now receive more snow than before and are therefore growing.
It's true, there have been many warm periods that have led to ice ages in Earth's history, but in all that time the levels of greenhouse gasses have NEVER been half as high as they are now. Humans are doing in centuries what takes the Earth millennial to do! We are responsible for it this time.
You suck >.>
The manipulated speaking about manipulation .
that has a familiar Christian ring to it
What about the 150.000 people that die each year related to Global Warming ,where they manipulated to death instead maybe ?
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Your first link was some 'crap' about discrediting Al Gore. As I saw it, it was purely political although in the pretext of global warming.
Second link.
It was also about Al Gore. Produce some facts without mentioning Al Gore and I will respond to it. Even excerpt from the links (as the second was quite long) and I'll respond to the scientific parts of it.
"Find me a link that doesn't have Al Gore in it."
Lol, this is your question. You find some sources of your own. I thought you had based your belief on other things then Al Gore. Obviously not.
"Explain to me then, how one volcano eruption produces more toxins than all of man kind."
Where are your sources? Do you just pick those number randomely?
"Find me a glacier that that is melting and I will find you a glacier that is growing..Explain that one?"
I'll take you up on that!
Here are 89 glaciars. Now produce 89 that aren't melting, with your sources.
2 Mass balance data 2003/2004 and 2004/2005
Name b 04 b 05
[mm w.e.] [mm w.e.]
Antarctica
Bahia del Diablo -110 -230
Argentina
Martial Este -1256 -844
Austria
Hintereisferner -667 -1061
Jamtal F. -228 -975
Kesselwandferner -189 -59
Sonnblickkees 8 -323
Vernagtferner -407 -523
Wurten K. -333 -448
Kleiner Fleisskees 82 -111
Grosser Goldbergkees 132 -260
Pasterze n.a. -899
Bolivia
Chacaltaya -1822 -2057
Charquini sur -1486 -2498
Zongo -523 -1693
Canada
Helm -2200 n.a.
Peyto -1850 n.a.
Place -1595 -1295
White 37 -612
Chile
Echaurren Norte -570 -850
China
Urumqihe E-Br. -706 -850
Urumqihe S.No.1 -755 -748
Urumqihe W-Br. -844 -692
Ecuador
Antizana 15 Alpha -572 -789
France
Saint Sorlin -2450 -2500
Sarennes -2820 -3230
Iceland
Breidamjok. E. B. -1330 n.a.
Bruarjokull -800 n.a.
Eyabakkajokull -1310 n.a.
Hofsjokull E -1500 -20
Hofsjokull N -1370 -430
Hofsjokull SW -1500 -570
Koeldukvislarj. n.a. n.a.
Langjokull Southern Dome -1487 n.a.
Tungnaarjokull -1700 n.a.
Italy
Careser -1588 -2005
Ciardoney -1060 -2230
Fontana Bianca -994 -1471
Malavalle n.a. -787
Pendente -427 -936
Vedretta Lunga -1524 -1233
Kazakhstan
Ts. Tuyuksuyskiy 60 -338
New Zealand
Brewster 700 n.a.
Norway
Aalfotbreen -100 670
Austdalsbreeen -960 190
Austre Broeggerbreen -1120 -1000
Breidalblikkbrea -950 -280
Engabreen 820 890
Graafjellsbreen -810 10
Graasubreen -490 -500
Hansbreen -570 40
Hansebreen -510 -90
Hardangerjoekulen 80 720
Hellstugubreen -840 -290
Irenebreen -605 -862
Kongsvegen -770 -480
Langfjordjoekul -1920 -1260
Midre Lovenbreen -970 -740
Nigardsbreen -40 1100
Rundvassbreen -210 n.a.
Storbreen -580 -60
Storglombreen 120 330
Waldemarbreen -641 -722
Russia
No. 125 -220 n.a.
Maliy Aktru -150 -30
Leviy Aktru -240 n.a.
Garabashi n.a. 200
Djankuat 700 400
Spain
Maladeta -1516 -1479
Sweden
Marmaglaciaeren n.a. -540
Rabots Glaciaer n.a. -1170
Riukojietna n.a. n.a.
Storglaciaeren -190 -80
Tarfalaglaciaeren n.a. -930
Switzerland
Basodino -490 -1170
Gries -1330 -1670
Silvretta 119 -650
USA
Colombia (2057) -1830 -3210
Daniels -2130 -2900
Easton -960 -2450
Emmons n.a. n.a.
Foss -1940 -3120
Gulkana -2290 -250
Ice Worm -2000 -2850
Lower Curtis -1510 -2750
Lynch -1980 -2620
Nisqually n.a. n.a.
Noisy Creek n.a. -2410
North Klawatti n.a. -2060
Rainbow -1670 -2650
Sandalee n.a. -2290
Sholes -1860 -2840
Silver n.a. -1490
South Cascade -1650 -2450
Wolverine -2280 n.a.
Yawning -1780 -3020
Edit.
You gave these as examples for glaciars growing in Norway.
"NORWAY
Ålfotbreen Glacier
Briksdalsbreen Glacier
Nigardsbreen Glacier
Hardangerjøkulen Glacier
Hansebreen Glacier
Jostefonn Glacier
Engabreen glacier"
"In 2001 mass balance measurements were performed on 13 glaciers in Norway - 10 in southern Norway and 3 in northern Norway." "The final results show negative net balance for twelve of thirteen glaciers. Hansebreen (-2.7 m w.eqv.) and Langfjordjøkelen (-2.3 m w.eqv.) had the greatest deficit. The result at Langfjordjøkelen is the
greatest deficit measured since measurements began in 1989. Gråsubreen was exactly in balance."
Several of these glaciars are the ones you mentioned. Perhaps you should review your sources?
1 Ålfotbreen and Hansebreen
2 Nigardsbreen
3 Austdalsbreen
4 Rembesdalskåka and Midtdalsbreen
5 Harbardsbreen
6 Storbreen
7 Hellstugubreen
8 Gråsubreen
9 Engabreen and Storglombreen
10 Langfjordjøkelen
The same way you can be manipulated into thinking it isn't. Because they don't know science so they depend on some authority they trust to tell them what to believe. They trust different authorities than you do.
We all hope Al Gore is wrong about global warming, don't we? I think we humans could do a lot to help the situation, but if we don't, and if the American breadbasket turns into a desert and the world starves and billions die, that will bring me absolutely no, zero, nada satisfaction at all to have been proved right. None. Even if it means all the stupid people who never believed in global warming either died or became educated on their error. So you see, we really are all in the same boat. I hope you are right, I hope I am wrong.
So how do you explain places that never get snow that's getting snow? Or how the ocean level is rising and the glaciers are melting? You believe that there isn't global warming just like others believe there is. The point of begin an adult is that even if it's not your fault you should try to help the environment. If we can do things to make it better shouldn't we?
95% of humanity are "sheeple" willing to be led by the nose by those most willing and unscrupulous enough to frighten them into believing that the sky is falling.
Does it matter whose fault it is?
Obviously we are not helping the problem by adding more CO2.
I think we all agree that there is a climate change going on. The changes are mostly going to be bad for everyone. So why don't we just stop the blame game and get to work?
Its OK dude your just suffering from a little pathological skepticism . It happens to all of us from time to time . No biggie
even if our pollution is not messing with the environment, we still need to cut it out. Humans are becoming increasingly more sick. Because of all the chemicals in the air. there is only so much medicine will be able to do.
I personally think you are an idiot. there is so much more to the environment/energy crisis than co2 levels in the atmosphere. which is what is causing the warming trend.
It is human nature for people to justify a position that helps them achieve a goal. They have convinced themselves to believe it. What are the real goals of global warming proponents?
I guess you ignore the EPA, NOAA and NASA as worthy sources, that don't use Al Gore. Head in the sand is great for an ostrich, not for humans.
Its not maipulation--its science.
The only ones being manipulated are the people who are so gullible they believe the fairy tales put out by the oil companies and other special interests.
Like Bush--before the 2000 election he acknowledge the reality of CO2 emissions causing global warming, and called for emissions caps. Thenhe reversed his "position" and started censoring scientific reports. Now he's switched again.
Yet the sheep still buy the nonsense about global warming not being the result of human activity. If the issue wern't so serious, it would be funny. As it is, they're just pathetic.
Dear God Where do i begin give me strength.Do you have a Bachelors degree in Meteorology? I do.Does The Lord God Almighty have to come to earth and slap you silly for you to see the effects of Global Warming on our environment EVERY DAMN DAY?????????...
Ok Genius answer me this if the cycle of modern Global Warming we are going through rights now has nothing to do with the interference of Humankind then why has the MASSIVE GAPING HOLE in the Ozone layer over Antarctica only appeared in the last few decades? Why not during the Permian Age when Volcanic activity was MUCH GREATER than it is today. One thing that we do agree on Humanity's capabilities of Self-delusion are AMAZING to me also.Maybe when your house is under a Mile Thick Glacier or the next Category 5 Hurricane blows you off to Oz you will see Global Warming for the self-imposed threat to Humanity it really is.One more thing PLEASE get your facts straight before you go off half cocked on a dangerous subject and help blind ever more people to this problem. Part of Global warming is also climatic COOLING in certain regions which causes GLACIERS TO GROW!!! God Save the world from ignorance. It is just so damn sad and funny to me that all that data on Glacial Growth you so obviously painstakingly collect PROVES THE EXISTENCE of Global warming better than I ever could Please Please for your own sake and that of your Children check into what I am saying here.
Entirely humans fault? No it is not.
However, point out one thing ( asides from the efforts of some) what are we doing to help slow the process. If we are not helping, we are hindering. The population is not getting smaller. Industrial demands are growing ever so rapidly and the 4% Co2 that you quoted is going to grow exponentially. Keep in mind that our industrial revolution did not begin too long ago. What is it going to be in another ten years with another few billion people on this planet.
They choose to believe what they want. They are like sheep, hopefully someone will lead them off of a cliff.
Free Tibet.
As global warming progresses, some of the more northern and southern glaciers, where it had previously been "too cold to snow" for part of the year, now receive more snow than before and are therefore growing.
It's true, there have been many warm periods that have led to ice ages in Earth's history, but in all that time the levels of greenhouse gasses have NEVER been half as high as they are now. Humans are doing in centuries what takes the Earth millennial to do! We are responsible for it this time.
You suck >.>
The manipulated speaking about manipulation .
that has a familiar Christian ring to it
What about the 150.000 people that die each year related to Global Warming ,where they manipulated to death instead maybe ?
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