Man made global warming-a myth?
when was the hole in the ozone layer discovered?when instruments were developed to identify and measure it, so who knowswhat it's dimensions should be
it's all part of the earths natural cycle and one of the biggest influences is the seas natural changing currents
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If humans carbon emissions had a direct relationship with the worlds climate why was it that after the second world war, when industries were at some of there most productive stages and massive rebuilding programs were in effect, did the temperature decrease?
The human contribution to Carbon emissions is so small that it's almost not worth including. If humans were to burn every bit of fossil fuel they could get there hands on for the past 100 years it would only make up to a tenth of that which is stored in the oceans.
The Oceans carbon emissions do react to increases in temperature, colder water holds more but has a lag time of between 300 - 800 years of surface temperature change. Al Gore missed this important point, or should I say said it was complicated and didn't included it.
Global Warming has occurred throughout history, Britain is colder now than it was in the Middle ages when Wine was grown around London. The world is currently coming out of a small ice age which peaked in the mid 16th Century. The world has since been warming up. You'll often here the phrase since records began but official temperature records that are of good enough standard are only from the late 1800's.
IPCC commission on Climate Change listed thousands of people, unfortunately only a few were scientist, and some of them are fighting to have there names removed from the list.
How could you say that the 764 tons of carbon dioxide we emit per second is not having an impact on the atmosphere? CO2 rises with temperature, and its just a matter of where the CO2 comes from. At the moment, it's coming from us.
Natural changes were responsible for climate until very recently. But man's production of greenhouse gases is the most important thing in the present warming. That's scientifically proven, as much as science can prove anything.
http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/ima...
Saying global warming is a myth is like saying the Earth is 6000 years old. You can, but you have to reject the scientific data and science to do so.
Good point. You will probably have someone post that hockey stick graph that the proponents of global warming are so proud of so here's a link that debunks it.
I asked a question once of what the climate should be. I was told that it was irrelevant.
I have been saying the same thing for years, it's just another excuse to charge us more money on tax's, the governments think that we are just a bunch of f*cking dullards, bring on the revolution.
the authorative fully researched and peer reviewed answer to anthropogenic climate change, sufficient even to be accepted by the US government then please see
http://www.ipcc.ch
PS the ozone hole has nothing to do with the climate change problem. By taking international action that problem has now been averted.
http://ozone.unep.org/treaties_and_ratif...
Global warming is normal what man is doing is accelerating it and making it worse than it would have been.
With all the hits humanity has given mother nature, eventually she will hit back. Humanity has done its best to destroy the enviornment of Earth for our greedy industrial needs (destroying rain forests, napalm, nuclear weapons tests, etc.) Don't be surprised when our greedy natures comes back to bit us in the butt.
I thought we finally got rid of all the Carl Rove Androids on YA!, but I guess not. Have them go back an upload the patch for "eighth grade science", and you should be fine.
You're correct. Global warming is natural, AND man is contributing to it by generating CO2. We're just not certain what's the most significant factor (man or nature). But, it doesn't matter. We're causing at least part of it, and we should do what we can to delay the effects.
No, myths are generally harmless. Global warming hysteria is a dangerous and therefore not a myth.
environment30:
764 tons a second? What's your source?
There are, according to many scientist, about 1900 gigatons of carbon, which includes CO2, in our atmosphere. That carbon makes up about 0.04% of our total atmosphere volume. At the rate of 764 tons a second we would produce a little over 24 gigatons of CO2 a year. At that rate, in 80 years, we will double the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere (for a total of 0.08%).
However, CO2 is readily absorbed by plants as part of their life cycle. Curiously most of the plant life on the planet lives in the oceans. Currently the oceans contain about 36000 gigatons of carbon (24 gigatons is 0.0006% of that amount). Because humans are not actual making CO2, we are simply recalculating it, most of the CO2 the human race produces will be consumed by earth bound and ocean bound plants. Some will even be lost to outer space.
It is likely that the earth will continue to heat up if we stop consuming fossil fuels today. This is because the sun is currently in a warming phase. Other planets' surface temperatures are also increasing. This is obviously not due to human consumption of fossil fuels.
Your hysteria is dangerous. You and your ilk will force oppressive political and economic sanctions on the western democracies while the dictatorships of the world continue to burn fossil fuels at their will and whim. While this may not sound bad to you, the implication of such a situation frightens me.
I do believe that we have a responsibility to manage our environment intelligently for the sake of not only our species, but all species. Global warming hysteria is not responsible management. It is dangerous hysteria.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jht...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sun...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/carbon_cycl...
http://personal.inet.fi/tiede/tilmari/su...
Global warming is a myth. I was a sea farer and in 1948 asked the Captain of the Aquetania on a voyage from Halifax Nova Scotia why in May it was so warm He told me it was because the Ice Flow was so far South we were off the Azores. My relative tested Concorde and said it was due to rockets sent up by Russia & USA thouch the statasphere. Tallyhohoho ?
You are right it is a myth. To prove this myth they go around saying another myth; The 20th century is the warmest on record, The rise in temperatures in unprecedented etc. Soon and Baliunas (2003) studied over 100 temperature reconstruction studies from all over the world and concluded:
"Climate proxy research provides an aggregate, broad
perspective on questions regarding the reality of Little
Ice Age, Medieval Warm Period and the 20th century
surface thermometer global warming. The picture
emerges from many localities that both the Little Ice
Age and Medieval Warm epoch are widespread and
near-synchronous phenomena, as conceived by Bryson
et al. (1963), Lamb (1965) and numerous researchers
since. Overall, the 20th century does not contain the
warmest anomaly of the past millennium in most of the
proxy records, which have been sampled world-wide.
Past researchers implied that unusual 20th century
warming means a global human impact. However, the
proxies show that the 20th century is not unusually
warm or extreme."
Global Warming is in fact not a myth. Just read National Geographic.
Ya, 300 years ago the atmosphere was fine, but now, the heat has contributed to the surge of super-hurricanes that ravaged the coasts last year, and the year of 2005, which was the hottest year on record. And the massive ice sheets of Antarctica are melting so fast you can see the difference on maps of it over the last few decades.
Indeed global warming is natural. But humans, with burning trees and fossil fuels, have sped up this natural process to the extent that the life on Earth cannot adapt to the increasing temperature in time to survive. We will wipe out a lot of life if we are not careful.
I highly recommend you get the movie, An Inconvenient Truth. Go to the website at
http://www.climatecrisis.net
I like to see are real debate not the screaming match that is going on now.
We first have to admit how little we know about global climate change.
And with maybe at most 60 years of good global data doesn't make a strong case for a planet that is several billion years old.
where screwed.
Largely a dangerous myth that will cause MORE environmental damage than all of the "excess" carbon dioxide released in the last 150 years.
Environmnet30 asked, "How could you say that the 764 tons of carbon dioxide we emit per second is not having an impact on the atmosphere? "
How can you say that nature pumping 100 times this is somehow thrown for a loop by this measly 1%? Is that your concept of nature with no buffering systems? You ca thank goodness that your natural body processes don't suffer this same alleged inflexibility, or else you might be facing death every single day, with every breath you take.
1) Greenhouse gases are not the only cause of global warming. They are simply the primary cause at the moment, but in the past there were other primary causes.
2) The hole in the ozone layer and global warming are 2 seperate issues that are barely related to eachother.
3) Global warming has accelerated since the Industrial Revolution:
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/info/warmin...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/image:2000_...
The issue is not that we're warming at all, the issue is that the warming is accelerating. Natural causes cannot account for this acceleration. Climate models require greenhouse gases to account for 70-95% of the warming over the past few decades in order to fit the global temperature measurements:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/image:clima...
I believe it is.
the scare tatics are being driven by neomarxist anti-globalisation freaks who all want us to go back to horse and cart and reading with a candle light and the goverments have discovered a new cash cow in green taxes and they look like they are fighting it so that way that people can get behind the movement its a psycological tatic.
make them believe one thing so the sheep will do what you want.
I hope the earth is warming up, I've always wanted to visit the north pole but you have to trek hundreds of miles across barren frozen wasteland. It would be great if most of it melted and you only had to walk a mile or so to get there.
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