Radical environmentalist = Islamic Terrorist What’s the difference??
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non violence is the card that trumps any and all beliefs. i can not condone acts that hurt another in the name of whatever or whoever you think calls the shots.
but because someone does this, do you have the right to trivialize and ridicule the belief that drove them? separate the act from the philosophy, man! it wasn't al gore or allah or the the earth goddess that made someone try to kill or maim someone else. it was their own choice, with a scapegoat attached to rationalize it for them.
someone else hit it on the head: there are extremists in all camps. bombing abortion clinics to save lives? killing in the name of god? how absurd they sound.
the cause is worthwhile and just. but using violence to further it, however 'passionate' you claim to be, cheapens it in the long run, and gives it two black eyes.
Based on your argument, the American Revolutionaries were terrorists. If you're fine with that, then that's fine by me. In any case, there are literally hundreds of big differences between Islamic extremists and radical environmentalists. You are creating a dichotomy of ambiguity to try to invalidate your opponent. That is a fallacy of logic.
Wow, righteous indignation must be like a drug to the conservative crowd.
I certainly agree with you. In addition, there are real environmental terrorists, like ELF, etc. Why is it so hard to catch them? We catch other people who do real crimes. And we are supposed to be in a prevention mode. Do you think there is political correctness going on in this area?
TERRORIST = SOMEONE WHO USES FEAR TO GET POLITICAL GAIN
Al Gore and Co fit squarely within that definition.
I am an environmentalist but I don't like radical environmentalist either. They give the environmental movement a bad name. I sympathize with your plight but reality dictates that if we don't grow trees as fast as we cut them down we will run out of trees. Then what would you do for a job. We will run out of oil eventually. Most likely in your lifetime. What good is a SUV without any gas to put in it? Gas is going to become very expensive in the next 10 years and you can't blame that on environmentalist. Right now nobody is making more oil. And the world is using it up at a greater rate every year. Eventually you won't be able to afford gas for your hybrid. So grow up and face reality and stop blaming environmentalist for your problems. The problems will be here whether there are any environmentalist or not.
People who vandalize and burn automobiles and buildings are not environmentalists by any stretch of the imagination. They do not deserve to be called environmentslists.
People who spike trees, burn automobiles and buildings are vicious antisocial people. Many of them have severe mental disorders.
They may attempt to cover their criminal behavior by calling it environmentalism. If they didn't have environmentalism as an excuse they would probably say they were spiking trees, burning automobiles and buildings to advance some form of Christian Fundamentalism, which would also be ridiculous.
There is no group of environmentalists that recognizes these nitwits as legitimate. They are just parasites attempting to attach their antisocial criminal behavior to a legitimate group of people.
Anti-Abortionist vs. Terrorist... What's the difference? Some Anti-Abortionists have been threatening those who are attempting to get abortions, killed doctors and bombed clinics in attempts to further their beliefs.
What's your point? Grouping in radical environmentalists in with all environmentalists is like grouping in Islamic terrorists in with all Muslim people to make an argument against them, although something tells me you'd be ok with that...
If someone cares for the future of the environment for the benefit of their children, it doesn't make them a terrorist.
Your logic statement X=Y is straight from Monty Python. You are a joke ... you spit nothing but piss and vinegar and you add nothing worthwhile to the debate.
What are you doing to sustain the environment you leave for your children? Every individual can make just a little difference but there are 6 billion people on earth of which 2 billion cant afford a light bulb and the rest of us can turn one off once in a while to save the planet for our kids. Try it. You can do it too without becoming a vandal.
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I think a terrorist is someone who promotes anarchy and chaos in order to wear away civility so that a new order can rise from the ashes of all this destruction. They don't want anything except a new world order where their own religious doctrines prevail as law.
There is no place for radical anything. Let's work it out.
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You obviously feel very passionately about this subject, which is great. However there are a lot of ideas in this one question, which makes it very difficult to answer well.
Can I suggest you pose an individual question for each idea? That way, people can consider it fully and give you a more reasoned response. So the first question may be your first sentence for example.
I will look out for your individual questions.
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