Do people really want justice, or do they want revenge and self-gratification?
As happy as I was to see Paris Hilton get sent back to jail after nearly getting off the hook with the 'celebrity treatment,' I couldn't help but feel disgusted with myself and others with the satisfaction of watching a young girl crying in a car. I always felt that people don't seek balance as much as they seek personal domination, so doesn't it make sense that people are really seeking self-gratification and using the word 'justice' to make it seem right?
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The problem is that justice is purely based on judgment, which is based on basic sense of equality, fairness, rightness...etc. Eye for eye is a basic form of justice which is basically the same as revenge. If you punch me it is unjust, therefore i may be justified for punching you back, and at the same time this "jusitfied" act of revenge is self-gratifying.
Therefore, i would say that a sense of justice is important to us because of our collective individual desire to not be done wrong by another. True justice is somewhat of an abstract idea that only God could truly apply and understand perfectly, So i say that we want justified revenge in order to restore a balance to our ego that is self-gratifying.
As for Paris Hilton, i think she got what was coming to her, but excessive revelry in her suffering is an immodest mob-mentality treatment of justice, which is immature and excessive. Everyone wants others to feel their pain so it feels good to see someone who has everything undeservedly handed to her suffer like we do.
If you believe that the law should apply to the rich as well as the poor, that is not self-gratification. That is justice! We see too much every day of justice being sold out to the highest bidder or the highest paid attorney. O.J. Simpson is a prime example. Ted Kennedy is another.
Justice is what people want, or so they say, but really it is revenge.
If your child is killed you want whoever did it to die too, but not just die you want them to suffer for what they did. but the murder dying will never bring the family of the victim closer or satisfaction.
If your robbed and you catch the person in the act and the robber doesn't have a weapon but you shoot him anyways was it justice? self defense? lets say you shot him in the back when he was still looking for things to steal is that really justice? No it's self gratification because you "defender" your family, when really you just defended your property, and things that you can rebuy.
Justice would to steal back from that robber, or for the murderer to die the same way his victim did, but no one really wants to admit this.
You bring up a good point. I think people do sometimes confuse "justice" with revenge and self-gratification. I must say, I was happy to see Paris Hilton get her due, as I feel there is a disparity between those that have and those that have not.
Having worked for over 26 years in the criminal justice and court system, I have seen the inequality of justice at times. The poor kid whose parents don't give a care about him gets prison time; where the kid whose mom and dad sit in court silently pleading with the judge to have pity on their child and he walks out of the courtroom with probation. Is that right or fair? No, but it happens time and time again.
I believe Paris Hilton is representative of all the "born with a silver spoon in the mouth" people out there that most of us will never be. In our minds, she has gotten away with everything short of murder and now that she is sitting in a jail cell like the rest of us would for her "traffic violation" we feel vindicated and even gleeful. "She's just like the rest of us now" we are thinking. Its an us versus them mentality.
don't think it's about rich and pore. don't like P.H. because of her nature (as far as I have learned about her). there are some other rich people that I appreciate but not her. and when people annoy us we want something bad happen to them. it's like a revenge. but it's our problem, it means that there is something we can't deal with. justice is when you make a choice with no emotions. as long as you have some about somebody it's hard to be just.
I think people want to see the law uphold the law. Government - created by the people for the people - has no business being wishy washy(no leadership skills). They are getting paid to uphold the law and are suppose to posses leadership skills.
I feel very sorry for those who's right to learn the difference between right and wrong was taken away from them starting with diliberate parent/child interferance.
I want justice when something wrong happens in society... I seek revenge when something wrong happens to me personally. It wa sad to see Paris go off to jail in tears... despite all of her celebrity bluster and bravado bulls*, at that point she was just a scared little girl facing up to the reality of what she had done. (I can only imagine the garbage she must have TRIED to pull on the L.A. County Sherriffs Department... ("Don't you know who I am..." crap... "Yeah, you're Paris Hilton of cheap porn-flick fame! AND you're under arrest!!")
People seek the failure of others, because the means they will rise above them.
define justice.
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The problem is that justice is purely based on judgment, which is based on basic sense of equality, fairness, rightness...etc. Eye for eye is a basic form of justice which is basically the same as revenge. If you punch me it is unjust, therefore i may be justified for punching you back, and at the same time this "jusitfied" act of revenge is self-gratifying.
Therefore, i would say that a sense of justice is important to us because of our collective individual desire to not be done wrong by another. True justice is somewhat of an abstract idea that only God could truly apply and understand perfectly, So i say that we want justified revenge in order to restore a balance to our ego that is self-gratifying.
As for Paris Hilton, i think she got what was coming to her, but excessive revelry in her suffering is an immodest mob-mentality treatment of justice, which is immature and excessive. Everyone wants others to feel their pain so it feels good to see someone who has everything undeservedly handed to her suffer like we do.
If you believe that the law should apply to the rich as well as the poor, that is not self-gratification. That is justice! We see too much every day of justice being sold out to the highest bidder or the highest paid attorney. O.J. Simpson is a prime example. Ted Kennedy is another.
Justice is what people want, or so they say, but really it is revenge.
If your child is killed you want whoever did it to die too, but not just die you want them to suffer for what they did. but the murder dying will never bring the family of the victim closer or satisfaction.
If your robbed and you catch the person in the act and the robber doesn't have a weapon but you shoot him anyways was it justice? self defense? lets say you shot him in the back when he was still looking for things to steal is that really justice? No it's self gratification because you "defender" your family, when really you just defended your property, and things that you can rebuy.
Justice would to steal back from that robber, or for the murderer to die the same way his victim did, but no one really wants to admit this.
You bring up a good point. I think people do sometimes confuse "justice" with revenge and self-gratification. I must say, I was happy to see Paris Hilton get her due, as I feel there is a disparity between those that have and those that have not.
Having worked for over 26 years in the criminal justice and court system, I have seen the inequality of justice at times. The poor kid whose parents don't give a care about him gets prison time; where the kid whose mom and dad sit in court silently pleading with the judge to have pity on their child and he walks out of the courtroom with probation. Is that right or fair? No, but it happens time and time again.
I believe Paris Hilton is representative of all the "born with a silver spoon in the mouth" people out there that most of us will never be. In our minds, she has gotten away with everything short of murder and now that she is sitting in a jail cell like the rest of us would for her "traffic violation" we feel vindicated and even gleeful. "She's just like the rest of us now" we are thinking. Its an us versus them mentality.
don't think it's about rich and pore. don't like P.H. because of her nature (as far as I have learned about her). there are some other rich people that I appreciate but not her. and when people annoy us we want something bad happen to them. it's like a revenge. but it's our problem, it means that there is something we can't deal with. justice is when you make a choice with no emotions. as long as you have some about somebody it's hard to be just.
I think people want to see the law uphold the law. Government - created by the people for the people - has no business being wishy washy(no leadership skills). They are getting paid to uphold the law and are suppose to posses leadership skills.
I feel very sorry for those who's right to learn the difference between right and wrong was taken away from them starting with diliberate parent/child interferance.
I want justice when something wrong happens in society... I seek revenge when something wrong happens to me personally. It wa sad to see Paris go off to jail in tears... despite all of her celebrity bluster and bravado bulls*, at that point she was just a scared little girl facing up to the reality of what she had done. (I can only imagine the garbage she must have TRIED to pull on the L.A. County Sherriffs Department... ("Don't you know who I am..." crap... "Yeah, you're Paris Hilton of cheap porn-flick fame! AND you're under arrest!!")
People seek the failure of others, because the means they will rise above them.
define justice.
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