When does a 'recovering alcoholic' become a 'recovered alcoholic'?
How many days/weeks/months/years of sobriety does one need to be classed as a recovered alcoholic as opposed to a recovering alcohlic? Is it putely a 'time' thing, or something else?
Answer:
You are never recovered. That is one of the fundamental principles of AA, and the reason why the number one rule is to NEVER DRINK.
I am in AA and have not drank for 3 years. I don't even think about drinking and have no desire to take a drink again. However, alcoholism is a thinking disease. I still have a lot of the same thoughts/fears/anxieties/"isms... that led me to drink in the first place. AA helps you recognize these problems, gives you tools to deal with them, but you are never truly recovered.
That is why they always tell you to take it one day at a time.
Hope that helps.
i think it is actaully when an alcholic learns when to stop craving alschol and when they can put a limit on what they drink and be able to refuse drink that is offered to them
There are no recovered alcoholics, there are only recovering alcoholics who chose not to drink, one day at a time.
once an alcoholic always an alcoholic.there is no such thing as recovered
Sorry but there is no such thing as a recovered alcoholic,its an ongoing thing,they will always be recovering.
The idea behind AA is that the former alcoholic is ALWAYS in the "recovering" status. No one is ever fully recovered as its a day-to-day process and every day sober is considered one step closer to a life of sobriety.
It depends 100% on the recovery association the person is a part of, if any.
As part of their (in my opinion degrading and false) program, AA members learn that even if they have no desire for alchohol or can use it in moderation, they are "recovering." They never recover.
Indeed, they are taught they have no control and never will have so they must abstain at all costs-always recovering, never recovered.
Obviously, other recovery systems have more moderate views, in which the amount of self-control and desire dictate "recovered" or not. Cognitive restructuring, for example, and most forms of recovery therapy involving professional help, teach how to become "recovered" not how to be "recovering" for the rest of your life.
Never, once a drunk always a drunk its in you DNA and one little slip up and you right back to where you started. Go ask anyone in 12 step program
from what I have read never, but I look at that as all crap,
a person could control them selfs, people are taught that it is not there problem, but it is them taking a drink, then 2 then 4 then what ever, if people were taught that it is there problem and taught how to drink, it would be OK
it is like a fat person saying it is not there fault, it is , there are the ones eating
I think that they recover a second before their last breath.
Two things must be observed: Time and Atitude regarding drinking.
If after a period of two years after the last drink or after the decision of becoming a non-alcoholic addict the being doesn't feel anything compulsive regarding drinks, one is considered free from alcohol.
you are never recovered,its just waiting to get you back.
Never-an alcoholic is an alcoholic for life,they will always be recovering as there is no cure for this particular disease.
i have always considered an alcoholic to be recovered when he has his last alcoholic drink never to drink again but mentally we know they are always alcoholics because one slip and they are back on the slides again so there is no set time limit just determination
I don't think you are never a recovered alcoholic,once you "have" alcoholism it's about managing it either by strict rationing or total abstinence.
hi,
as lots of people have told you, you dont actualy recover, you have to take it one day at a time. the way of thinking for and alcoholic is completely different to those of sobriety, and we have to learn to accept this, we think one day at a time, take it easy.
i find doing thinds in AA to help others can be very fulfilling and you dontwant a drink, but not to let others pull you down in their moment of weakness, did you ever hear the serenity prayer...?
"lord give me the serenity to change the things i can change, the courage to accept the things i cannot, and the strenghth to know the difference"
xx
Tough one.
I don't think there is a right answer to this question.
every day he doesn,t have a drink
They will always be recovering
Never
ur never a recovered alcoholic coz one sip and u r straight back to where u started
when they no longer crave alcohol i guess
once you are an alcoholic you remain one in the respect that you should never drink alcohol again.
You always have the risk of wanting a drink.
It is possible to be cured in respect that you don't crave or want a drink again. It's a hard road to recovery.
The only time you can use the word recovered alcoholic is when the body is found somewhere you are neber recovered all your life you are in recovery, Day by day year by year for further info try Alcoholics Anonymouse or for a true uplifting tale go to WWW.cupcakebrown.com a remarkable story and a remarkable woman
Never. A "recovered " alcoholic is only in remission. It only take one drink to put him right back.
An alcoholic who stays sober is a recovering alcoholic, they take one day at a time and may refrain from alcohol for months even years then all of a sudden start drinking again.
I believe this is a disease often handed down from generation to generation.
There is no such thing as a recovered alcoholic
An alcoholic should not be mistaken for a drunk.
well some very good replies here , some saying you never recover , well I had this problem I myself have had no drink for almost 8 yrs. I think in my case I would´t like to go through what I have been through ,nor would I like to put my family through it again . I can´t answer for anyone else, but I would put it down to will power ,and knowing that you have family that love you help´s. But you no the saying never say never again ,because one can never tell
Never, hic!
LOL, people assume because you drank to excess you'll always do it, I know people who have slipped back, and other have never done so, theres no aloholism per se, just either u don start and cant stop, that aloholism, or you can a few drinks and cant stop till you fall over !. There is a habit forming part of the brain whic can be destroyed , that does not allow ciggies/ booze/ drugs etc for you to able to stop. BUT at the end of the day if you have to constantly fight againgst something then your addicted, if it doesnt bother you either way, your not addicted, simple really. ME love getting pissed soemtimes, others drink coke, smoking used to, but just gave up and don't even think about it, others, NO WAY
when you think you are but you should never drink again (my husband says he thought he was recovered at about 6 years sober - he's now nearly 15). He was in the AA programme
Oh !! DON"T provoke endless AA rants about thinking stinking drinking and all that babble pleeeease ! A lot of AA members are more nuts in the program than when they were p i s s e d. Just don't pick up a drink and you won't get drunk. Simple. I stopped drinking a got addicted to working girls ! Nice clean " in house " ones mind you but a better obsession with no hangovers ! and
at least I can remember it !
It is all about quick fix sense gratification and self honesty.
That is it .
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Answer:
You are never recovered. That is one of the fundamental principles of AA, and the reason why the number one rule is to NEVER DRINK.
I am in AA and have not drank for 3 years. I don't even think about drinking and have no desire to take a drink again. However, alcoholism is a thinking disease. I still have a lot of the same thoughts/fears/anxieties/"isms... that led me to drink in the first place. AA helps you recognize these problems, gives you tools to deal with them, but you are never truly recovered.
That is why they always tell you to take it one day at a time.
Hope that helps.
i think it is actaully when an alcholic learns when to stop craving alschol and when they can put a limit on what they drink and be able to refuse drink that is offered to them
There are no recovered alcoholics, there are only recovering alcoholics who chose not to drink, one day at a time.
once an alcoholic always an alcoholic.there is no such thing as recovered
Sorry but there is no such thing as a recovered alcoholic,its an ongoing thing,they will always be recovering.
The idea behind AA is that the former alcoholic is ALWAYS in the "recovering" status. No one is ever fully recovered as its a day-to-day process and every day sober is considered one step closer to a life of sobriety.
It depends 100% on the recovery association the person is a part of, if any.
As part of their (in my opinion degrading and false) program, AA members learn that even if they have no desire for alchohol or can use it in moderation, they are "recovering." They never recover.
Indeed, they are taught they have no control and never will have so they must abstain at all costs-always recovering, never recovered.
Obviously, other recovery systems have more moderate views, in which the amount of self-control and desire dictate "recovered" or not. Cognitive restructuring, for example, and most forms of recovery therapy involving professional help, teach how to become "recovered" not how to be "recovering" for the rest of your life.
Never, once a drunk always a drunk its in you DNA and one little slip up and you right back to where you started. Go ask anyone in 12 step program
from what I have read never, but I look at that as all crap,
a person could control them selfs, people are taught that it is not there problem, but it is them taking a drink, then 2 then 4 then what ever, if people were taught that it is there problem and taught how to drink, it would be OK
it is like a fat person saying it is not there fault, it is , there are the ones eating
I think that they recover a second before their last breath.
Two things must be observed: Time and Atitude regarding drinking.
If after a period of two years after the last drink or after the decision of becoming a non-alcoholic addict the being doesn't feel anything compulsive regarding drinks, one is considered free from alcohol.
you are never recovered,its just waiting to get you back.
Never-an alcoholic is an alcoholic for life,they will always be recovering as there is no cure for this particular disease.
i have always considered an alcoholic to be recovered when he has his last alcoholic drink never to drink again but mentally we know they are always alcoholics because one slip and they are back on the slides again so there is no set time limit just determination
I don't think you are never a recovered alcoholic,once you "have" alcoholism it's about managing it either by strict rationing or total abstinence.
hi,
as lots of people have told you, you dont actualy recover, you have to take it one day at a time. the way of thinking for and alcoholic is completely different to those of sobriety, and we have to learn to accept this, we think one day at a time, take it easy.
i find doing thinds in AA to help others can be very fulfilling and you dontwant a drink, but not to let others pull you down in their moment of weakness, did you ever hear the serenity prayer...?
"lord give me the serenity to change the things i can change, the courage to accept the things i cannot, and the strenghth to know the difference"
xx
Tough one.
I don't think there is a right answer to this question.
every day he doesn,t have a drink
They will always be recovering
Never
ur never a recovered alcoholic coz one sip and u r straight back to where u started
when they no longer crave alcohol i guess
once you are an alcoholic you remain one in the respect that you should never drink alcohol again.
You always have the risk of wanting a drink.
It is possible to be cured in respect that you don't crave or want a drink again. It's a hard road to recovery.
The only time you can use the word recovered alcoholic is when the body is found somewhere you are neber recovered all your life you are in recovery, Day by day year by year for further info try Alcoholics Anonymouse or for a true uplifting tale go to WWW.cupcakebrown.com a remarkable story and a remarkable woman
Never. A "recovered " alcoholic is only in remission. It only take one drink to put him right back.
An alcoholic who stays sober is a recovering alcoholic, they take one day at a time and may refrain from alcohol for months even years then all of a sudden start drinking again.
I believe this is a disease often handed down from generation to generation.
There is no such thing as a recovered alcoholic
An alcoholic should not be mistaken for a drunk.
well some very good replies here , some saying you never recover , well I had this problem I myself have had no drink for almost 8 yrs. I think in my case I would´t like to go through what I have been through ,nor would I like to put my family through it again . I can´t answer for anyone else, but I would put it down to will power ,and knowing that you have family that love you help´s. But you no the saying never say never again ,because one can never tell
Never, hic!
LOL, people assume because you drank to excess you'll always do it, I know people who have slipped back, and other have never done so, theres no aloholism per se, just either u don start and cant stop, that aloholism, or you can a few drinks and cant stop till you fall over !. There is a habit forming part of the brain whic can be destroyed , that does not allow ciggies/ booze/ drugs etc for you to able to stop. BUT at the end of the day if you have to constantly fight againgst something then your addicted, if it doesnt bother you either way, your not addicted, simple really. ME love getting pissed soemtimes, others drink coke, smoking used to, but just gave up and don't even think about it, others, NO WAY
when you think you are but you should never drink again (my husband says he thought he was recovered at about 6 years sober - he's now nearly 15). He was in the AA programme
Oh !! DON"T provoke endless AA rants about thinking stinking drinking and all that babble pleeeease ! A lot of AA members are more nuts in the program than when they were p i s s e d. Just don't pick up a drink and you won't get drunk. Simple. I stopped drinking a got addicted to working girls ! Nice clean " in house " ones mind you but a better obsession with no hangovers ! and
at least I can remember it !
It is all about quick fix sense gratification and self honesty.
That is it .
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